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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 14, 2011 6:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Hey all!

Don't ask me how I haven't known about this site before today, I have been sitting here all nite having flashbacks and dancin in my livingroom...thanks to all who have made this possible..

Would someone mind telling me how to transfer a whole show to itunes? I realize i can drag n drop a song at a time but?? I saw in FAQ it says Itunes streams the MP3's as I listen to them but mine isn't doing that... a little help here! Would love to be able to listen as I run, though id rather still be getting my exercise dancing at the shows & makin Veggie Burritos in the parking lots!

Thanks peeps

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Poster: gratefuldonny Date: Jan 15, 2011 9:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Try this on for size. Then from the itunes file menu select add folder to library. Then you can drag and drop into your ipod.


http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-08-06.GEMS.Smith.Kaslow-Todd.109430.flac24

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Poster: vapors Date: Jan 14, 2011 6:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

This truly is a great site, glad you found it. This is a great forum too, where opinion, knowledge and animated repartee abound. Spinners and veggie burrito references are almost certain to evoke the latter :)

Ask anything you want and you may be surprised at the generosity of info available here.
Or not, as the case may be. The search box at the top of the page can keep you very busy. Welcome aboard. (sorry, itunes isn’t my bag)

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 14, 2011 6:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

thanks Vapors... its all good, I was always friends with the Dat guys back then and probably smoked a few of these guys up :) All i can say is WWJD..yeah... think about that... btw that What would Jerry do!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 14, 2011 8:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Hey SC--you met a number of the right folks here, and even the hesitant ones are thus for a reason (lots of odd, one-timer posters/spammers, etc., so it takes a while to break the ice).

Anyhooo, RingL-O defn one of the good guys (ahem), so you can't go wrong there, and the old geezer, Bill (UserUnk) will help as best he can but just don't count on it being of much use past circa 1972, technologically speaking. He does know about smelly markers though.

Seriously, just keep trying to cram those things on the ol ipod, or do what I do and grab a 19 old to do it for you while you regale them with tales of "in my day, I used..."

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jan 15, 2011 3:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Of course the 19 year old will note gently, "But you have this song already."

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 15, 2011 4:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Thanks WIlliam, your post is very gentile and made me smile... The answer for any ref as i have learned from one of the links posted: when transferring whole shows you need to download them to the computer 1st and then drop them in Itunes. If you only want to do one song at a time you can simply drag it to a Playlist...

A good morning to all

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 15, 2011 8:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Glad you were able to get the answer. Overall i think you will find that this is an informative place and the people are pretty helpful. Just don't ask about downloading sbds, as the band policy is that they are for streaming only, and if you can refrain from asking people what their Top 10 favorite (insert any random thought here) list is, I would be most grateful. I hope that has run its course. Enjoy the music and the company.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 15, 2011 1:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Top Ten hater! Boy...just when my OCD was finding its natural equilibrium as a result of the many offerings of the Forum of late (if I can't rank "it", whatever "it" is, I always say "why even bother with it"?

;)

JK, of course; was getting tiresome.

But I do have a question: has the time come when it is no longer necessary to warn fair ladies from the clutches of over-attentive aged Tell?

The fact that no one mentioned this (historically speaking) requisite for any and all newbies of the XX variety, is a pleasant surprise.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 15, 2011 1:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

To answer your question, i doubt it but you never know. I was surprised that you weren't all over this thread, in your usual stop on a dime, hey now there's a new woman around, ladies man sort of way. That said, given how our ex-spinner was initially treated, it was probably for the better anyways. Now i am thinking that you might be trying out a newer more subtle approach. Well i guess anything would be more subtle than your previous methods.

Yes the lists are boring to me, besides i can't figure out how they left you off that top 10 genius one. I guess that makes two of us........

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 15, 2011 8:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Ah...that's the ticket; I use my lethargy to advantage. Rather being seen for what it is, it will appear an actual "Tell, marketing strategy 101", and someday soon, we can debate if this accidental "new" approach was in fact, a true "biz strategy", or merely a byproduct of early onset dementia.

And if you can recall what that all is about, well, you've got a good memory my friend!

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 16, 2011 6:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

The discussion you refer to came up the other day:

http://www.archive.org/post/342733/and-now-for-something-completely-dead-related-no-really

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Poster: boltman Date: Jan 15, 2011 6:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

A little late checking in, but sounds like you've got it...been using a Mac for longer than I care to admit I've even been alive. I choose the VBR ZIP file, download into a file I cleverly have labeled DOWNLOADS then drag the entire folder into "Music" in iTunes and start listening.

If you are looking for stuff not found here might want to browse eTree or Lossless Legs, if you can get an account.

Welcome, I'm a Lurker so this may be one of the few times you hear from me.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 15, 2011 8:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Stick around boltman, the more the merrier.

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Poster: vapors Date: Jan 15, 2011 7:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Hey boltman, just curious - are you saying that on a mac you don’t have to extract the ZIP file first?

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 15, 2011 7:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Usually a mac will extract from a downloaded .zip automatically. I know it always works whenever i download stuff from archive.org.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jan 15, 2011 8:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

On a Mac here also - yes you have to extract, but the Mac makes the process very easy. (just double-click, does it automatically.) Add to iTunes thereafter. Welcome to Spinner - we need more women in these parts, some of the old cranky bastards here are gettin' uppity.

There is so much material here - I mostly just stream it rather than DL it.

Now for the million-dollar question - is there a Mac equivalent to Trader's Little Helper? What does a Mac user do with Flac files ? Will I really hear a difference on an iPod with decent headphones?

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 15, 2011 8:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

you can convert them to .aiff using a free program called xACT.

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/14246/xact

Of course you will now have a file that is 10x larger than the 192 mbps VBR mp3 you are probably using on the ipod now. If you add the .aiff to itunes you can further convert them to apple lossless (ALAC). This is the apple equivalent of FLAC and will compress the files to about half the size of the .aiff files.

Can you hear a difference from .mp3s on an ipod? I think that depends on your ears and headphones. I think i can between a 192 mbps VBR and lossless however if i create 320 mbps .mp3 files i really can't hear a difference. This seems to vary from individual to individual so you pretty much have to figure it out for yourself. Hey, a least it is a fun exercise.

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Jan 15, 2011 11:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

thanks elbow and bolt. have to play around... both look promising. Of course, this means a several step process - DL, convert FLAC to aiff, then convert to ALAC. Do folks keep all these files, or pitch out the FLAC when done?

Current settings (iTunes prefs) for CD import are AAC Encoder. Following up on your post - import to iTunes first, or change this pref to ALAC before import of the converted aiff's?

Also this brings up a more general question - how does everyone here listen to all this digital music? Is everyone burning disks of their dl's so they can be played on the home stereo or car stereo? (The Apple solution would be to get the Airport and stream this digitally to the home stereo.) I'm currently doing 99% of my listening at the computer (Logitech THX with a big sub-woofer) or iPod, since I never got around to replacing the analog home stereo. Love to hear about everyone's sound system.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 15, 2011 11:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Yes i think you could just change your itunes import to ALAC and that would do the trick. I think the import is for playlists, i never have used it for this. I usually just add the AIFFs to the library using Add To Library and then convert in ALAC in itunes and then delete the AIFFs.

As for keeping files, if i convert to ALAC and/or mp3 i chuck the AIFF files since they are the biggest. You can burn discs from ALAC just fine. I try to keep the FLACs as they are good for trading purposes. Of course this means more LaCie 2TB external disc drives and the risk of divorce.

How do i listen? ipod (mp3 and alac), iphone (aac to save space), computer hooked to speakers at work or home. For commercial releases i rip them for all of these however I also listen to those CDs in my truck. There was that one time i had to hear how the 24 bit version of the latest Charlie Miller transfer of 4-29-71 sounded asap but had to run some errands and go to work so i plugged my notebook computer into the aux of my pickup truck. Sounded great especially the best H2H ever, but was a little nervous of having to hit the brakes.

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Poster: boltman Date: Jan 15, 2011 8:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

With FLAC files, I convert using Switch. Think there are both free and paid versions. Another freebie that sticks in my head (hope I'm correct) is Cog.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffbeep* Date: Jan 15, 2011 10:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Welcome, dear lady. As you can see, it's a very interesting place with lively folks all about. But be careful. This place can be addicting!
Perhaps this might help: On the left side of a page you will see "VBR M3U". Right click on it, click "save target as" or "save link as" to your desktop. Then just drag and drop the file into itunes and you will have the whole show to play.

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 15, 2011 10:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

niiiiiice! thanks that's even easier! :)

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jan 14, 2011 7:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Welcome Spinner.

Though I too am tech challenged,my "friends" here would say the challenges run much deeper, I have learned that diligent searching will usually turn up an answer or two.

look here...
http://www.archive.org/post/59611/help-transferring-archive-music-to-ipod

I hope it helps.

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 14, 2011 7:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Thanks Unknown! I was admittedly having problems even with the searching! I appreciate you taking the time to post the link, i will try...

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Poster: user unknown Date: Jan 15, 2011 11:34am
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You're quite welcome. I am always, well usually(if I'm not in a$$h0le mode, happy to come to the aid of a forum sister or brother.

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Jan 16, 2011 10:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

hello SC! excuse my late welcome...anyways just thought you might like to know that this website may interest you if you want to acquire some crispy soundboards:

http://bt.etree.org/

and this one is good too, though i personally don't use it much:

http://www.shnflac.net/index.php



you'll have to download a client program (bittorrent or utorrent, usually free) to use these websites. not sure how much you know about that, here's a link:

http://www.bittorrent.com/

nugs.net also has many SBDs still available for download; you'll have to download Java to get the soundboards, which is easy to use, and free:

http://www.nugs.net/

hope this maybe helps!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 14, 2011 8:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

That was an entrance SC. Hello. Welcome. Enjoy.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd_nrps70-06-24.aud.pcrp5.23062.sbeok.flacf

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 15, 2011 4:32am
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HA ;) Thanks Micah..happy to b here

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jan 14, 2011 7:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Sorry. I'm too busy chomping on chicken wings. Chickens can't fly with them anyway. No harm, no fowl.

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Jan 14, 2011 7:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Welcome aboard Spinner!!

I don't do the itunes bit either, sorry.
You can download the auds to your computer all in one shot.
on the left side of the page of any downloadable show, you will see a couple of different formats to choose from that grab all the tracks in just a few minutes.
Once you get them onto your computer you should be able to get them onto your ipod fairly easily.

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 14, 2011 8:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Thanks Finster- I think the mistake i was making was unlike the single song that I can drag and drop...i cant drag n drop the whole album... i'm also brand new to a Mac, so i'm having a serious learning curve here. Trying right now.

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Poster: Zaorish Date: Jan 15, 2011 10:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

I agree with the others..just browse to an Audience show, click where it says "VBR ZIP" on the left-hand side column, and once it's downloaded, Un-ZIP it, then you can drag-and-drop the whole folder to iTunes. (VBR means Variable Bit Rate, it means it's medium-quality, medium-file size). There are ways to get other shows but it isn't proper to discuss them here. Let the AUD (audience) show recommendations begin!!

~ ~ ~ ~ ~
http://www.archive.org/details/gd78-12-19.aud-sony.wagner.19507.sbeok.flacf
^ Best Stella Blue >> Not Fade Away ever
http://www.archive.org/details/gd76-07-16.menke.cribbs.16943.sbeok.shnf
^ Very sweet Row Jimmy and Cassidy and Spanish Jam with extremely warm sound
http://www.archive.org/details/gd90-03-24.schoeps.wiley.11806.sbeok.shnf
^ Not only beautiful sound quality but an excellent set list including an amazing Mind Left Body Jam
http://www.archive.org/details/gd84-10-30.senn.vernon.17415.sbeok.shnf
^ Fast & furious '84 goodness with an excellent Let it Grow and Scarlet Fire.

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 15, 2011 10:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Thanks Zao!
Really appreciate the recommendations, the scope of music on here is massive and just browsing thru i see what some of the posts are about with the variety of sound quality etc...I'll get back to you on the other part of ur post ;)

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Poster: fourempties Date: Jan 15, 2011 8:29pm
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If you don't organize your shows into playlists, you are going to end up with thousands of songs loose in your MUSIC library in iTunes. I'm telling you- the best way to manage shows (if you are like me and have hundreds of them) is create a playlist for each one. I name mine GD 72-04-17 for example. Once you unzip the show, just drag the folder into the playlist you have just created. That way, all the songs will be in the right order.

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Poster: Dancin'Deb Date: Jan 15, 2011 8:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

Welcome SC from another lady of the forum...I can be of no help with the tech stuff but I just wanted to pop in and say hi! Hope you enjoy the ride.
Oh, and I still get my exercise by dancing and spinning at shows...it's great fun!

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 16, 2011 5:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

That's so cool to hear! Made me smile this early morn... thanks for saying hi!!

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jan 14, 2011 6:22pm
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I just puked.

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 14, 2011 6:25pm
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*Spinner Chick lays an overpriced earth friendly recycled rug over the puke*

Nowwww will you help? :)

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jan 14, 2011 7:05pm
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Welcome. Guess I can be the first to tell you: If the show says streaming only, it means streaming only and you can't have it. That means no iPod. Band policy. If you were here a couple of years ago, it would have been a different story. OTOH, there are lots of wonderful audience options that you can download to your computer and then push into iTunes etc. I am old and techno-challenged, but even I can do that. And there are lots of very knowledgable folks here that can push you in all sorts of interesting listening directions. And there are lots of places to download boards etc., but others can direct you cause I don't and can't. I have old ears and live in mp3 land.

Oh, and as Ring noted, the guys here are knowledgable, kind, witty, and assholes. Hang in there.

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 14, 2011 7:40pm
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Thanks Diamond!!
and knowledgable, kind & witty are my favorite kind of a-holes so all's good! :)

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jan 14, 2011 6:24pm
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Good luck

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 14, 2011 6:29pm
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uh-oh...not feeling warm n fuzzy in here, did i make a faux pas & post in the wrong area?

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jan 14, 2011 6:35pm
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You just ordered a double free range organic soy latte at a burger joint...

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 14, 2011 6:41pm
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now now, before you go getting your Abercrombie's in a bunch, i am an Ex-spinner chick who even then could afford her own hotel room & shaved,,, today to be honest yes i AM still a hippie at heart but to look at me no one would EVER know...can i help it if i miss those days!! sheesh..

i really appreciate ur incisive reference the image was acutely descipt...guess i should take that latte 2 go.................................

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jan 15, 2011 7:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Help a tech-challenged sister out!

and your point?

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jan 14, 2011 6:57pm
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Hi spinner chick,
Welcome, and please ignore anyone who doesn't come across warm and fuzzy, they mean well, really they do, it's some sort of guy thing. This place is VERY testosterone heavy but there are 2 or 3 of us gals here and there. (Nearly) all the guys mean well. I'm not any good at explaining itunes etc., so I can't help much, but wanted to say welcome and please don't get the wrong idea from anyone acting not warm and fuzzy.

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 14, 2011 7:03pm
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Thanks Girlie! much appreciated...

Like the man said, i ordered a soy latte in a burger joint, ....soooo i'll take my lumps from the posts and hopefully eventually get the info i'm looking for ;)

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jan 14, 2011 7:14pm
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I don't even know what he's talking about - I don't see how you ordered a soy latte whatever.
I don't usually even try to download here - I just stream, so sorry not to be of any real help.

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 14, 2011 7:30pm
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your help has been great! a warm welcome was just what the Dr. ordered... I will play around a little more and try streaming as well...thanks you

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jan 14, 2011 7:21pm
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Real men don't twirl. :)

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 14, 2011 7:25pm
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Oh, shit!

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jan 14, 2011 10:14pm
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Don't worry. I rollerskate with the Dead. When it's not raining in Seattle.

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jan 14, 2011 8:04pm
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Shaved? ;D

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Poster: SpinnerChick Date: Jan 14, 2011 8:12pm
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Glad you came around Strato! ;)

Alright peeps its bedtime on the east coast...thanks for the welcomes & keeping me on my toes